Heroin + Incest = Bestseller

Heroin + Incest = Bestseller

By Sarah

Shortly after yet another made-up memoir was published - I think it might have been "Love and Consequences," the story of a black gang member as penned by a white creative writing student - my editor casually mentioned that any book with the word "memoir" either explicitly or implicitly implied was under serious scrutiny at our publishing house. "The problem isn't that all memoir writers lie," she said, rather insightfully, "it's people's memories. They're really unreliable."

No kidding.

Ask any criminal lawyer and they'll tell you the same thing. In fact, the fallible human memory is the crux of cross examination and the bane of many witnesses. Even well-meaning folk who stick by a crime scene as they should to provide testimony about the stabbing they unfortunately happened upon can find themselves flayed on the witness stand, questioned about every minor detail of the moment such as whether it was raining or drizzling, if the light had turned green, if they remembered a group of school children passing by. One answer wrong and the witness turns out to be not so credible after all.

"If Mrs. Jones can't remember that the day was, actually, cloudy not bright and sunny, can we trust her, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, to know that it was a man with sideburns and a crew cut who stabbed the victim?"

Mrs. Jones was sober. Mackenzie Phillips? Not so much. But she, too, has written a memoir, "High on Arrival," that's been featured on Oprah and Larry King, about her alleged forced and then consensual relationship with her father, John Phillips, of the Mamas and the Papas. I predict it's destined for the New York Times bestseller list and, a year or so from now, the remainder bin. Kind of like Mackenzie herself. 

John Phillips is dead, that helps, so he's not present to defend himself though two of his former wives are. They claim Phillips never had an incestuous relationship with his daughter even if he was drunk and stoned for decades.

Mackenzie has shot back that this is the "typical reaction" of family members facing such allegations. Better to deny the horrific events than deal with the reality. Protect the victim and all that.

Okay. I buy - strongly buy - that family members, like all humans, are experts at denial, the shortcut to survival. As a former crime reporter, I was amazed by the mothers of raped children who stuck by their pervert boyfriends instead of their own offspring. It was maddening, especially for the cops and counselors, not to mention the girls themselves. (Book idea: follow up on those children to see how they fared in life.)

But when it comes to Mackenzie Phillips, I'm not so quick to rally. For one thing, in her case I resent the pat response that defense = denial. Not always. Surely, some people accused of rape or incest must be innocent and, if so, those denials have merit. What we've got here is almost a reverse witch trial - if you deny the crime, then you must be guilty.

Also, there's the sober factor. Like in the Mrs. Jones cross examination above, even the most clear-minded brains can be influenced by the power of suggestion, time, distractions and outside influences. We'd like to think that our fourth birthday - the one where we put toothpaste in our hair to amuse our highly

 refined four-year-old guests - occurred exactly as we recall. But there's a good chance it was Susan Foster, not us, who pulled the toothpaste trick out of the hat. Unless there's video, we'll never know.

I've never done heroin, but I have been drunk and I can't say my memory of those times is anything close to crystal clear. So it amazes me that Mackenzie Phillips, who was arrested with heroin just last year, is cold positive about her past.

I know what you're going to say, abusers often target screwed up victims whose memories can't be trusted. True. But I see Mackenzie Phillips, hard around the edges at age 49, racking up the sales on Oprah and I have my doubts. The old line that she's doing it for other incest victims wears thin when she's cashing huge advance checks. If other incest victims were her highest priority, wouldn't she have at least joined an organization protecting abused children? Marched in a few parades? Volunteered?

I guess the bottom line is that I have serious issues with those who make a fortune on revealing secrets for mega profit. At some point - and time is running out - Mackenzie Phillips will have to stop living off her name, for good or ill, and try to make it with her own talents.

One day at a time.

Sarah  

Comments

[Kathy Sweeney]

Yowza. I was away when this story broke, so all I saw were the headlines.

One thing to keep in mind: heroin is a drug like no other. Addiction can occur from the very first; it's a relatively cheap drug that can be bought in small quantities; and addicts tend to spend the majority of their time looking for their next score. No lie is too big, no act is too disgusting in order to get it.

I guess what I'm saying is - putting aside for a moment the incest, the fact that this man introduced his own child to heroin is enough in my book to fry him.

I wonder if any of the terms of her criminal case called for her proceeds from book sales to be placed in trust? Hah.

[Josh]

Well, I completely believe her, and I feel sorry for her. Her relationship with her father was far from healthy, and her step-mothers' "denials" cinched it. Poor, lost soul.

[Josh]

Or would that be "clinch" it?

[ArkansasCyndi]

Watching Mackinzie Phillips is like seeing a 10 car pile-up. I WANT to look away but I'm fascinated by all the gore, blood, etc. I slow my car to about 10 MPH to look and be glad it wasn't MY car in that pile-up.

I DO believe John Phillips introduced her to drugs. The sex? The pregnancy? The abortion? I don't know, but I don't find it impossible. After all, he took up with Michelle Phillips when she was 16.

[Alan P.]

"On Oprah and Larry King" Not exactly two people who have asked a tough question of a guest in the last 15 years. The book will sell. Accusations that can never be proved will fly. Some will believe and some won't based on nothing but snippets.

Don't bet on it being on my book shelf any time soon.

[Karen in Ohio]

Actually, Alan, I saw the Oprah interview, and she tried pretty hard to make Phillips squirm, but she held firm.

Sarah, I had the same thoughts about her motives, but then she explained. Her goal was to shine light on consensual (consential?) incest, because she wanted to let others who may have been in that situation know they were not alone. Those who were in that particular situation are somewhat rarer than those who were forced to stay in that kind of relationship, and the guilt would make it difficult to share their feelings. I suspect there are very few support groups for them, in particular.

And of course her stepsister has not only not denied that it happened, but confirmed it. Since so many mothers live in denial about the incest of their own children that rings true to me, too. I didn't realize Michelle had been only 16. That just reinforces my conviction.

I've known three women who were victims of incest, and one of them still has a very loving relationship with her stepdad, the one who victimized her. It's not such a stretch to me to believe Ms. Phillips.

I won't be buying the book, either, but if I saw it at the library I might pick it up. I do enjoy autobiographies, especially when I can relate to some facet of the subject's lives. And I'm not such a stickler for "truth" in that genre; to me, the important thing is what they think they remember, and how it shaped their lives and how they lived them. I try not to demand more perfection in an author than I myself possess.

[Karen in Ohio]

Sorry, I meant to type subject's life. Unless they happen to have been reincarnated, ala Shirley McLaine.

[Sarah]

You know - I don't have a problem with her coming out and revealing this and then working actively to raise awareness of incest issues. But I do have a problem with her making a boatload on the book. For me, that's the deal breaker.

[Sarah]

BTW - for anyone dragging his or her feet finishing a novel, Sarah Palin just finished her memoir - 400 pages in 4 months - and it's ready to go Nov. 17.

Of course, a work of non fiction would be expected to take longer. Facts are pains in the butt, dontcha know. Better to just bypass 'em all together.

[Karen in Ohio]

If Palin writes the way she speaks (assuming she actually wrote this book) I shudder to imagine the editing it would take to make it even vaguely coherent.

[Harley]

The problem with a Sarah Palin book, if she does write the way she speaks, is some editor is going to have to fill in a lot of words to turn soundbite-y phrases into actual sentences. That will make the book a lot longer than 400 pages.

When I broke my wrist while ice skating this past New Year's Day, I was given a nice shot of morphine by the paramedics and HOURS later was driven home from the ER by a very dear friend, who happened to tell me some very interesting and personal secrets. When she alluded to them last week I looked at her blankly and said, "huh?" Zero memory.

I wouldn't trust me on a witness stand about yesterday's lunch.

And I always found Mackenzie Phillips vaguely disturbing, and the possibility of incest and rape doesn't really change that, so . . . nope. Probably won't be adding her to my TBR pile.

[Laura (in PA)]

I'm having a hard time even stomaching this story, so I haven't read much about it, and definitely haven't watched interviews. I can't imagine a mind sick enough to make it up, though I guess a drug-induced mind is a different story.

I never liked Mackenzie Phillips. She was too rough - even as a teen. I'd rather read about Valerie Bertinelli and Eddie Van Halen.

Loved your ending line, Sarah. :)

[Laura (in PA)]

Holy crap! I just got a message that my work Internet filter is blocking this site! Don't tell me I have to quit my job!

At least my comment seems to have posted.

[PJ Parrish]

I have a good friend whose husband was sexually abused by his father. The father also abused several of his daughters. When my friend's husband finally got some therapy (at age 40) he tried to talk to his family. They turned on him, especially his mother and the other abused kids. I get the feeling this second betrayal was almost worse for him than the abuse itself.

[PJ Parrish]

As for Palin:

You think she wrote that speech she gave in China? She didn't write this book either. But it will make a ton of money for Harper Collins and maybe support some real authors.

I'm trying to be positive here! :)

[Cathy]

Sarah Palin didn't write a book. She talked to Lynn Vincent ("Same Kind of Different as Me"), who is the ghost writer for this project. Presumably Vincent translated Palin-ese to English before putting it down on paper.

Do you think non-fiction is really harder to write than fiction? I heard an interesting interview on NPR last weekend with a supreme court reporter who is writing a novel. She pointed out how much harder it is to write fiction than news stories. For some reason, I find that question a lot more fascinating than the subject of this blog.

Mackenzie Phillips' story doesn't seem either far-fetched or particularly interesting to me. I think she's had a sad life all around. I'm not especially surprised by these latest revelations and I don't care whether she makes money on her story or not. She's talked before about how her father was the one who got her into drugs. We already knew he was evil and he ruined her life. So now we know about even more evil things, but her life was still ruined. Her past matters less than what she does with her future.

[xena]

Soooo....I had a friend once who had a very famous mother and sister in show business. I felt sad for her having to live in the shadows struggling to make a name for herself her whole life. How terrible it must be, right?
Only took me a week to realize every time we went out in public she milked that daughter/sister act to get to the top of the A list. People adored her because she was related to movie stars.
She'd have been like any other kid trying to make it if it wasn't for her name which was always followed by her mom's and sister's names. She would casually ask me if her sister, insert name here, would like the white fox or the red mink jacket.
I enjoyed the ride but kept the contacts after she left just because people liked me.
Mackenzie may have been abused but her 15 minutes of tell all fame will be just that.
And I ain't buying it.
Just saying.

[Debby]

Whether or not I were to believe Mackenzie, I think that I would prefer to read 'Polio: An American Epidemic'...again. Since it gave insight into my grandmother and her early life as a polio survivor.

As for incest, it may be a sort of catharsis for MP. I just feel sad for anybody who suffers through it, and then suffers again to either have to testify or deal with family turning their backs.

Not interested in Sarah Palin either. There are just too many other interesting books (fiction or non) to be read.

[Kathy Sweeney]

I just have to say - there is nothing consensual about a sexual relationship between parent and child that begins at her age- or any age for that matter. You don't have to be a lawyer or a shrink to know that.

[Maryann Mercer]

Not on my TBR list either...there are so many other good books out there, it seems a shame to waste time on a story I've heard about ad nauseum (just tune in to Biography at re-run time). I wish Ms. Phillips the best with the rest of her life and don't envy at all her fight to really conquer the drugs. It took me too many years to quit smoking (12 years and counting...and it's still hard) to judge anyone else. And maybe she IS giving some of the proceeds to abuse groups and just not tooting her horn about it...who knows? As for Ms Palin...didn't someone already do a book on her? And isn't one really enough?

[gaylin in vancouver]

As an incest survivor I can tell you Mackenzie Phillips does not speak for me and her book will probably only help her and her bank account.

18 years ago at 31 I decided to talk to my family about the abuse, I was fortunate that when I 'came out' my family rallied around me. I didn't tell them until I was ready to lose them all if they betrayed me. Not a fun time either way. I won't be reading MP's book, the woman has always kind of creeped me out, regardless of her circumstance.

When it comes right down to it, did any of us have a perfect childhood? I am pretty sure everyone that writes in here is over 25 so that makes us all adults and responsible and accountable for our lives and actions now. I have never played the 'abuse survivor' card and shudder when other people do.

[Sarah]

Cathy - my line about non fiction was a dig at Palin because I don't really believe she's capable of knowing, much less telling, the truth about herself. As for whether non fiction's easier to write -- I'd say yes, having worked on both sides. Except for the research. Ay, there's the bitch.

I'm reading an absolutely fabulous biography on Fanny Stevenson (Wife of RLS, but that's the least of it.) translated from French. It is so good I can't believe it.

To go from Indiana in 1865 to California via Panama.....what women did back then puts the mackenzie phillips's to shame.

Also, I, too, never liked Mackenzie Phillips even before all this. Was it her facial features? I find it interesting. She always seemed like the person most likely to harass you in juvy.

[Sarah]

Geezum crow, Gaylin....that's quite a thing to be honest about! You couldn't sound healthier.

[Jane]

I'm a longtime reader, but only sporadic poster. At the risk of sounding whiny and divisive I've got to post. I don't typically go around outing myself as a incest survivor, but tone of this post bothered me a bit. It seems that you are angry that Mackenzie might profit from a book about her life experiences. Would you feel the same way if she had been the victim of a kidnapper, or a plane crash survivor? For me it just comes across as the kind of blame the victim tone that keeps sexual abuse survivors from coming forward to confront their abusers.

I'm strongly inclined to believe Mackenzie's story and while I have no interest in reading her book, neither do I mind that she profit from it. From what we've seen of her life from the headlines, I doubt any of us would be willing to live even a small portion of it for any amouunt of money.

Incest is devastating to a person's sense of self. I'm not sure anyone with a normal family life can imagine how difficult it is to come forward with this information and face the denial of your family when you do finally muster the courage. It is extremely common for the spouse of the abuser to side with the abuser over the child. Learning to trust your own experience without the support of your friends and family to validate you is very difficult. I applaud people with the strength to manage that. For good or ill, Mackenzie's life has been lived in the spotlight and I applaud her shining that light on something that our society doesn't want to deal with. Survivors shouldn't have to hide.

[gaylin in vancouver]

Sarah, if we ever meet you will know I am not as settled or honest about life as I write but I am working on it.
Anyone have any survivor/incest questions ask away, I used to do public speaking on this and will be honest about anything.
I used to think that my inability to sleep soundly in a bed with someone else was a survivor thing but thanks to this blog, I know that lots of people (men & women) sleep better on their own. See, the things you can learn from a blog.

Really, is anyone going to read Sarah Palin's book, doesn't matter who writes it, it won't be interesting.

[Sarah]

They're doing a 1.5 million print run.

[Karen in Ohio]

That doesn't mean anything, Sarah. So many of those political books have large print runs, the books are purchased by special interest groups to make it look as though they are bestsellers, then the books are dumped, en masse, onto resale tables everywhere. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Jane, thank you for speaking out, and for saying what I couldn't quite say. If we all walked a mile in one anothers' shoes we'd be in much better shape, wouldn't we?

[Sarah]

Jane - point taken.

[Laura (in PA)]

Damn, my company picked a horrible day to ban me from this blog. Thank God for my iPhone.

[Sarah]

But let me ask this. If every time someone accuses a family member of incest MUST it be true? This is my basic question, especially since John Phillips is not alive to mount a defense.

In my own family, a person accused another of incest and it was found - by the police, psychologists, etc - NOT to be true and the matter was simply dropped. Relations resumed as normal. However, the accused's reputation was ruined forever.

Perhaps it's the journalist in me, but I have a bad reaction to the theory that just because someone comes forward with an accusation we are all supposed to hop on the bandwagon and believe it.

I realize I'm taking a very unpopular stance here. I certainly have been thru enough awareness classes to know about how hard this is on the victim. That said, I cannot accept that 100% of the accusations are true. We work on a premise of innocent until proven guilty in this country and if incest is a crime - which it is - it deserves due process, as sucky as that might be for the victim.

What's the alternative?

[Jane]

I think that is a very fair question, Sarah. I agree that 100% of accusations are not likely true. For me, due to my experiences, I take a personal stance of accepting most assertions based on that gut level response of recognizing a fellow victim. Certainly not admissable in a court of law. I don't have any statistics at hand, but I suspect there are far more cases of incest that never make it to any police or legal proceeding than those that do. Many survivors, like Gaylin's post described, wait until they have enough power and independence to come forward. In my case that was long enough past the event for psychologists I saw to not be compelled to report it to the police. I guess, not surprisingly, that I am more bothered by this underreporting than I am about whatever false accusations are made. Not very nice and fair of me, but true

Since this instance with the Phillips family will never go to court, I think all people can do is go with their own gut instinct. I wouldn't want to tell you you're wrong for not believing Mackenzie's story. As I said earlier, I'm strongly inclined to.

[Lucy]

I saw Michlle Phillips on "Oprah"; and then the 2nd show on "Oprah" about this topic with her sister, Chynna.
On the 2nd show, they mentioned that Denny (singer from 'The Mamas and The Papas') has a daughter, who confirmed that Denny told his own daughter, that John Phillips was having an incest relationship with his daughter, MP - and that was one of the reasons that Denny put distance between himself and John.
So, in my mind - I think that it is true that there was an incest relationship between MP and her father, John.
About whether MP makes a profit from her book or not, I don't think that matters.

I think MP is brave to be public about this. MP is going to pay an 'emotional price' all her life for being so vulnerable and public about this. Money does not really compensate for this public vulnerability.

I wonder if MP is in some kind of a 12 step program for the heroin and drugs addictions - and from that, she has made an 'inventory' of her past - and maybe that led to the public confession? In any case, I wish MP well in healing and recovery from drug addiction.

[gaylin in vancouver]

I know there are lots of reasons, safety being one that them, that incest goes unreported while it is happening and underreported after that fact. There is also the fact that the legal system is not kind to those filing charges and that can be a form of abuse in and of itself.
I never filed charges against my step-grandfather, I was SO not willing to deal with the legal system. My mother took matters into her hands and wrote everyone in our extended family that she had an address for to let them know their children and grandchildren would be in danger if they let Him visit and his access to children disappeared. No one mourned when he died. It was a family wide sigh of relief. He abused my mother as well but she never had the ability to protect herself, when I started talking about it she could stand up for me and take what action she could. He was abusive to everyone in my generation in verbal and physical ways. Sexual with me. Turns out everyone was scared of him (including adults) so everyone just took it.
I don't think this will ever be a problem that goes away. It is all One Day At A Time in dealing with it. I think there will be a whole lot of judging going on with MP's case as to the age it started and the drugs involved etc.

[Sarah]

Good point, Lucy. I bet you're right about the 12 step thing.
Thanks for the insight, Jane.

[Kathy Sweeney]

Gaylin and Jane - the work of surviving never ends. I admire you for your strength and candor. You never know who might some day read these comments and draw the strength to stand up.

My point about the money from this book was not so much that MP should not profit from it, but given the fact that she is a heroin addict (I think her last arrest was about a year ago, which means she is very far away from being clean and sober) I would hope that someone would help her handle the money wisely. She may be a grown woman in a chronological sense, but between the drugs and the incest, there is no way she had the chance to mature.

In the bit of counseling I have done, that is one of the consequences that is the most shattering - a total theft of a normal childhood/adolescence and the experience of dating and forming healthy relationships.

Praying for victims and survivors.

[Josh]

John Lucas is a former first overall pick in the NBA draft (and All-american college tennis player) who has had substance abuse problems for about 30 years. I remember when he was coaching the Sixers about 15 years ago, and he said that every day you wake up is the first day in your recovery.

I think about that in when people here post about their substance (or other) abuse problems, or about substance abuse problems of "people" in my life. Sure, you can count days, but in truth, every day is the first day.

[gaylin in vancouver]

Kathy, I agree with you about MP and profiting from the book. If the book was selling as an actual helping book I would feel more at ease, as it is selling as a confessional and tell-all, that is where the squeams come into play. And yes, how she deals with the profits will be interesting. A year in recovery is not long.

Josh, yes, recovery is an every day process. There are days and weeks that go by where the incest issue is a non-issue. Then there are days and minutes where it rears up and is present. I also know that being a survivor is a big part of the reason I didn't have children. The vulnerability of bringing a child into this world was more than my psyche could handle. Also the whole getting pregnant thing was way to Aliens for me . . .

My best friend is 10 years clean and again, it is the same thing there are days when you would never know and there are days when the behaviours and problems are right there.

It is the everyday owning of myself as an adult that I take pride in. I hope that MP will own her own life, be accountable for herself in the here and now and I certainly hope she is in counseling. Lots of it. Yes, it helps.

[Jane]

Sarah - thanks for the discussion.

Thanks for the supportive thoughts Kathy.

Gaylin - I like your Mom!

[Lucy]

I wrote a post on this, that seems to have disappeared???

I am not going to rewrite the whole thing...
but briefly, I want to say that the story about Michelle and her father, John being in an incest relationship was confirmed on a 2nd "Oprah" show.

(This 2nd "Oprah" show also had MP's half-sister, Chynna, on it.)

On that 2nd show, Oprah read a statement by -

Jessie, eldest daughter of Denny (one of the original singers in "The Mamas and the Papas") said that her own father, Denny, told his own daughter Jessie - that John was involved in incest with Michelle. Denny did not approve of this, and this is one of the reasons that Denny avoided John and kept distance between them.

Jessie has known about this for years, and recently confirmed Michelle's story about it.

[Ramona]

A little off topic, but not really, this month is the 25-year anniversary of the movie, "The Burning Bed." The victim in that case was shunned and disbelieved, and her husband's abuse defended or ignored until she ultimately took matters into her own hands.

I pity Mackenzie Phillips, if she is telling the truth; I also pity her if she is lying. Imagine how messed up you'd have to be to lie about such a thing.

[gaylin in vancouver]

It would be ever so sad if Mackenzie is lying or even seriously embellishing.
I used to hope I was making it up and then a gyno one day asked me how I got the scars. Crap it is true.

[Lucy]

Sarah -
Hi. I just re-read my posts - from Lucy - and realized that I transposed the name "Michelle" for "MacKenzie" - is there a way that you can edit my original post, to clear up any confusion? I'd be grateful.

MacKenzie is the daughter, and author of the book, and involved with incest with her father.

Michelle is the 2nd wife, and not involved in this book.

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About this book - I think MacKenzie is trying to honestly own up to what has happened in her life.

If you saw the "Oprah" interview, I did not think that MacKenzie was doing any 'blaming' really (other than, maybe, the first time she had sex with her father). I think she was just owning up to this part of her life, and not hiding it anymore.

The conversation that MacKenzie is having is that incest happened between her and her father, for a 10 years period. She was an adult when this happened.

[Bev]

I'm surprised that Oprah even had MP on the show. You would have thought she would be a little more careful after James Frey's A Million Little Pieces. As a mother of a substance addict, I find that no matter what the drug of choice is they all lie.

[Lucy]

Did you actually see MacKenzie being interviewed on "Oprah"?

I am getting the feeling that many comments are being posted by people, who do not have any factual details of the actual interview.

Oprah was very evenhanded in interviewing MacKenzie. (Oprah also mentioned that in her own family, there had been some incest issues - so Oprah was very open about discussing this topic.)

MacKenzie said the incest relationship with her father started when MacKenzie was 19 years old, and lasted until she was 29 years old - so it was 10 years long. MacKenzie said the first time happened, when she was 'blacked out' so she did not give consent to that first time. However, the rest of the relationship was 'with consent'. She and her father were two adults have a consenting incest relationship.
There was NEVER any talk about this being childhood sexual abuse, when MacKenzie was a minor child.

MacKenzie acknowledged that this relationship was very dysfunctional/strange, but she did not blame her father; she did take responsibility for herself.

From some of the postings here - I wonder if you think this happened to MacKenzie when she was a minor? Is that what you guessed happened? That is not the case.

I believe MacKenzie told the truth. There is no reason to lie about this. MacKenzie is talented enough that she can get an acting job to earn money. She is enough of a celebrity, she could make money from speeches and guest appearances. She is not so desparate for money, that she would write a book full of 'lies(???)' to make some money. MacKenzie is not that desparate.

[Jodi]

I have to confess I have no personal experience with incest so I know nothing but I do have a question...she said(I think--I kind of had the TV on when I was reading) that it ended when she was 29 and already married. Tell me, how can someone who is married(assuming out of her father's house)and financially independent not able to avoid situations that would expose her to her father's advances?

[Stevie]

I've always been angry at how women behave the worst toward other women. Evidence is here.

[Lucy]

quote from above comment:

"Tell me, how can someone who is married(assuming out of her father's house)and financially independent not able to avoid situations that would expose her to her father's advances?"

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My opinion is:

This relationship was NOT about the father FORCING his advances on his daughter...but rather, that the daughter too agreed to continue to have this kind of relationship with her father. (He was married during this time, too.)

I think there was a close emotional bond specifically between John and MacKenzie - and they crossed over the physical boundaries into having physical sexual relations with each other - by mutual ongoing consent.

It did end when MacKenzie was 29 years old - it came to a head, when MacKenzie found out she was pregnant, she wasn't sure if her own father was the father of this child - she had an abortion, and she realized that this sexual relationship with her father had no future, and she did not want to continue it anymore.

However, she was still his daughter, still had a family relationship with him, and she was nearby when he was on his deathbed, and got to say her "final good-byes" to him.

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